Micro.blog suggestion for @manton and crew – consider adding emoji tags for discovering women, people of color, etc. to follow!
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fiona
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@cleverdevil I would feel pretty weird about a "woman" tag. But, looking at the tagmoji list, maybe there should be more that reflect interests that are conventionally thought of as feminine? Cooking and baking 🍳🍪, yoga 🧘♀️🧘♂️, arts and crafts 🎨✂️, etc?
cleverdevil
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@fiona love all of those ideas! I also like the idea of a 🏳️🌈 tagmoji, and something more generically focused on underrepresented groups.
smokey
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@fiona 🍳 is active as part of Discover breakfast—which seems to be entirely male right now :-(
I know when the year’s new/forthcoming emoji were announced, @modernlittleme was excited for more craft-related ones, which could then make their way into tagmoji. And I don’t want to jump to the conclusion that women don’t like sports (especially since Discover only collects posts, not replies, and I didn’t open any Conversations), but there are 7 sports Discover categories right now and I counted 2 women, each with 1 post, out of 7x40 (or whatever) posts, so
But, looking at the tagmoji list, maybe there should be more that reflect interests that are conventionally thought of as feminine?
seems like a good step forward. (Of course, people need to be using the emoji in their posts, too, in order for Discover to surface them, but first things first.) // cc @cleverdevil
smokey
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@simonwoods Your point about better moderation tools is a good one. I worry (with my “We can do this, but should we” software-interrogating hat on) about making it too easy to find people who meet any specificity without ensuring that they’ll be safe from misuse of that discoverability. It hasn’t happened here, and hopefully never will, but all too often we have seen on the Interent that discovery is the key to harassment.
I also like your point at the end about making sure we do the work.
simonwoods
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@smokey Thanks. Moderation tools are vital, whereas discovery can be self-made in a lot of ways. Right now there are a lot of people for whom I would not recommend Micro.blog because of the relative lack of tools for what amounts to basic survival on the web. It's even more important to me than cross-platform parity, site-wide search, and further improvements to IndieWeb and open web mechanisms; all of which could improve Micro.blog's reputation in a big way yet do nothing to substantially contribute to the safety of individuals on the platform itself..
manton
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@simonwoods @smokey What tools are missing? I think it helps to talk about specific feature requests here. The current design is around muting, reporting, and curation of the various sections of Discover.
smokey
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@manton I don’t know what @simonwoods might have been thinking about (and never used Twitter, so I have no idea what tools comparison he’s trying to make :-) ), but my concern is around the ability to scale—and it’s more of a worry than a problem now, of course—human moderation is always going to be at a disadvantage to automated or semi-automated discovery tools that can be harnessed by attackers, and you can’t spin up another Jean like you can a new server to handle the load :-)
That said, I did notice the other day that muted users are still visible in Discover when signed in.
And, just a question of curiosity: has Safe Replies filtered anything yet? (I don’t know that there’s necessarily been anything to catch, so it exists like a magical firewall that provides a lot of protection that we can’t see happening.)
simonwoods
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@manton In a shocking twist I wrote too much for a comment.
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@cleverdevil I would feel pretty weird about a "woman" tag. But, looking at the tagmoji list, maybe there should be more that reflect interests that are conventionally thought of as feminine? Cooking and baking 🍳🍪, yoga 🧘♀️🧘♂️, arts and crafts 🎨✂️, etc?
@fiona love all of those ideas! I also like the idea of a 🏳️🌈 tagmoji, and something more generically focused on underrepresented groups.
@fiona 🍳 is active as part of Discover breakfast—which seems to be entirely male right now :-(
I know when the year’s new/forthcoming emoji were announced, @modernlittleme was excited for more craft-related ones, which could then make their way into tagmoji. And I don’t want to jump to the conclusion that women don’t like sports (especially since Discover only collects posts, not replies, and I didn’t open any Conversations), but there are 7 sports Discover categories right now and I counted 2 women, each with 1 post, out of 7x40 (or whatever) posts, so
But, looking at the tagmoji list, maybe there should be more that reflect interests that are conventionally thought of as feminine?
seems like a good step forward. (Of course, people need to be using the emoji in their posts, too, in order for Discover to surface them, but first things first.) // cc @cleverdevil
@simonwoods Your point about better moderation tools is a good one. I worry (with my “We can do this, but should we” software-interrogating hat on) about making it too easy to find people who meet any specificity without ensuring that they’ll be safe from misuse of that discoverability. It hasn’t happened here, and hopefully never will, but all too often we have seen on the Interent that discovery is the key to harassment.
I also like your point at the end about making sure we do the work.
@smokey Thanks. Moderation tools are vital, whereas discovery can be self-made in a lot of ways. Right now there are a lot of people for whom I would not recommend Micro.blog because of the relative lack of tools for what amounts to basic survival on the web. It's even more important to me than cross-platform parity, site-wide search, and further improvements to IndieWeb and open web mechanisms; all of which could improve Micro.blog's reputation in a big way yet do nothing to substantially contribute to the safety of individuals on the platform itself..
@simonwoods @smokey What tools are missing? I think it helps to talk about specific feature requests here. The current design is around muting, reporting, and curation of the various sections of Discover.
@manton I don’t know what @simonwoods might have been thinking about (and never used Twitter, so I have no idea what tools comparison he’s trying to make :-) ), but my concern is around the ability to scale—and it’s more of a worry than a problem now, of course—human moderation is always going to be at a disadvantage to automated or semi-automated discovery tools that can be harnessed by attackers, and you can’t spin up another Jean like you can a new server to handle the load :-)
That said, I did notice the other day that muted users are still visible in Discover when signed in.
And, just a question of curiosity: has Safe Replies filtered anything yet? (I don’t know that there’s necessarily been anything to catch, so it exists like a magical firewall that provides a lot of protection that we can’t see happening.)
@manton In a shocking twist I wrote too much for a comment.